. thank you so much for letting us into your homes during these truly extraordinary times. we are so grateful. our coverage continues. in the meantime, we want to take this opportunity to wish all of you a very, very happy new year. good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. jimmy carter has died at the age of 100. in many ways his path to presidency was a surprising and remarkable one. in 1976 jimmy carter represented a stark break from the politics of richard nixon, the last

elected president. carter was soft-spoken, deeply religious, trades he used to ride electoral backlash against knicks i don't knowian lies and scandals and dirty trucks. he was not running against nixon but incumbent gerald ford. ford had been elevated to the vice-presidency and then the presidency after his predecessors in both positions resigned in disgrace amid national scandals. ford was not able to fully break with nixon's unpopularity, and carter won the white house. his legacy is more complicated than his widely admired post-presidency. carter had notable accomplishments most notably facilitating camp david accords. for that effort and others carter was ultimately awarded the nobel peace prize in 2002. one area he was unable to succeed was in renewable energy.

he had the opportunity to truly reshape our relationship with fossil fuels amid that unprecedented crisis. his decision to install solar panels on the roof of the white house. >> these solar panels at the white house cost almost $30,000, and they heat only the water in the building's west wing, but they were meant to symbolize the carter administration's solar energy. the president said solar energy is safer and more reliable than the energy we depend on now. >> solar energy will not pollute our air or water. we will not run short of it. no one can ever embargo the sun or interrupt its delivery to us. >> carter's predecessor -- carter's successor, ronald reagan, took those solar panels down as a commitment to fossil

fuels and his backers in the energy industry. he was able to do that because he won a victory. but that's uncovered when assessing that is reagan used a nixonian trick of his own to defeat. >> the embassy in tehran is in the hands of muslim students tonight who stormed the embassy, fought the marine guard for three hours, overpowered them, and took dozens of american hostages. >> it was at first a political boon for carter, a kind of rally around the flag effect, but then a disaster occurred and it was later discovered that reagan's campaign setup secret back channels to ensure that the crisis endured. a reagan ally, former texas governor, john connelly, traveled to a number of middle eastern countries in the summer

of 1990 in the heat of the campaign with hostages still in iranian hands where he encouraged leaders in the region to pass along a message to iran. as "the new york times" put it, don't release the hostages before the election. reagan will win and give you a better deal. and the plan worked. the hostages were not released, reagan won the re-election, and in a final twist to carter the hostages were released just after the new president was sworn in. they were actually forced to wait on the tarmac in iran to ensure that reagan would get the credit. in the end carter had undone and pardoned the exact politics he'd been elected to reform. it's great to have you here. >> hi, chris. >> let's talk about the hostage crisis and its role in that election. i'm always sort of struck by how gross it was both at the

political level but also the human level that you had an ally of reagan going around the region telling people to, you know, send to messages to iranians to hold onto them. that hostage crisis was interesting because if you look at the polling his approval rating goes up in the midst of it, and then it becomes a total albatross. >> after their seize there was a rally around the flag phenomenon, and he beats ted kennedy who challenged him for the nomination. but then as the crisis wore on especially after the iran hostage rescue mission failed, remember those helicopters crashed in the desert in april of 1980, suddenly it really became an albatross around carter. it's like when are you going to get these people home? and it was almost as if he was being held hostage by the ayatollah khamenei, and his entire administration seemed to revolve around bringing them

home safely. if he'd bombed iran, he would have been elected but around 10,000 iranians would have been killed and hostages would have been executed, so he tried to negotiate their release. in the fall of 1980 eventually moving in carter's direction because the iran-iraq war had erupted and the iranians needed the frozen assets to fight iraq, so they were making a lot of progress in getting the hostages free. suddenly the progress ends, and it's because william casey who is reagan's campaign manager and became director of the cia, had a multi-pronged operation. one of the lesser efforts to try to delay the release of the hostages, and he worked with the rockefellers called project

alpha. these rockefeller folks and the casey folks were proud of their role. they wrote to their relatives, i am proud of my role in preventing these hostages who were in this dank basement from being released before the election. that is traitorous conduct on the part of people associated with the reagan's campaign. >> i would say that the kind of top line, you know, headline of the jimmy carter presidency and post-presidency is deeply decent guy, incredible post-presidency. as someone who's written this incredible biography and had access to a remarkable trove of documents, actually talked to carter, what does that miss? >> a lot. so my take is that he was a political failure not just because he was crushed by ronald reagan but because he could sometimes be ham handed, and he lacked some natural leadership

abilities. he wasn't a good communicator. but in journals we judge presidents by how they're doing politically. are they up, down? hitstorians have a different job. so he was a political failure, but he was a substantive and often visionary success. and the solar panels that you showed, it's just one part of this far-sightedness. he wanted electric vehicles by the mid-1980s. he was 30 years ahead of his time. he was talking about climate change before any other leader in the world mentioned what was then called global warming. and there are a whole series of other issues, and he did a lot about it. you know, he signed 15 major environmental bills. people assume he didn't get anything through congress. that's just not right. he actually got more bills through congress in four years than obama or clinton did in

eight years, and many of them were very significant pieces of legislation. of course, internationally, the human rights policy helped bring down communism, moved a number of dictatorships to a democracy. it was hypocritical in ways, but it was a very, very important change for the united states. the panama canal treaties, which are now in the news, if he hadn't had them ratified, saboteurs would have -- terrorists would have closed the canal. trump now wants to go back to something that even reagan when he became president, he said carter was right. privately reagan said carter was right, these treaties are in the interests of the united states. normalizing relations with china a huge thing that is the foundation of our global economy, now that bilateral relationship. and i'm just getting started. there are a whole number of other just unexamined accomplishments of this man.

>> you wrote about your substack about if he'd been re-elected president, he planned on moving the country toward electric vehicles even if slow battery development had hindered progress, it's interesting because obviously the solar panel thing is kind of iconic and perfect metaphor. but just that you had this moment of intense interest back in the late 1970s. geothermal starts to get deployed we can't let the saudis and opec cartel boss around the most powerful nation on earth, and all that dissipates once the oil prices come down. >> yeah, but what he did, and this is something i interviewed not just jimmy carter many times, i interviewed george h.w. bush, barack obama. he took things like solar power

out of the kind of country world where a lot of liberals and he made it mainstream. and even though reagan set things back, carter had brought clean energy into the mainstream. and there was a lot of the sort of plumbing of government that he did that nobody remembers. so it was under carter public utilities for the first time were inceptvised to use clean energy. that took national legislation that he signed, toxic waste cleanup, he doubled the size of the national park services, environmental record was superb. >> when i think about carter he is so the opposite of the man who is about to reoccupy the office. in every possible way like the same 1961 ranch house, sort of old-fashioned values, if you will, of humility and thrift and things like that.

will we view that as a kind of form of american politics that is just pegged to a certain time? >> i don't think so. and, you know, joe biden mentioned this yesterday. he said it's not a bygone era. this spirit of jimmy carter is alive in the american people. it has not been extinguished. and i think the response to his death was an indication of this. he was despised and derided when he left office, sunk into a depression before starting the carter center, and has done so much in global health, democracy and promoting other issues, then for a while he was respected, now he's beloved. for a people who are a little older like me, it's kind of an amazing we're at a point now we're going to have a national holiday on january 9th, so we can come back, and jimmy carter's legacy, his moral

example can help light our way back to a better america. >> thank you so much for your time. coming up as a first family of georgia democratic politics the impact the carters made on generations of southern politicians. stacey abrams joins me next. so politicians. stacey abrams joins me next.

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choice. we can choose to alleviate suffering. we can choose to work together for peace. we can make these changes. and we must. >> president jimmy carter spent his entire long life in service in the military, as president, and then of course in his decades of work around the globe after he left the white house. he inspired a generation of advocates and politicians including fellow georgian stacey abrams. president carter was a vocal supporter of abrams work on voting rights and campaigned for her in georgia in 2018. and abrams joins me now. great to have you on the program. i would love to hear what your relationship was like with jimmy carter, obviously the carter family i know looms enormously large in georgia democratic politics. >> i would say it looks large in

georgia politics because part of the legacy of jimmy carter was his commitment to rural georgia, and that's how i got to know him first. i actually met him when i spoke at the boys and girls club of america's georgia or southwest georgia in americas, which is his hometown. and he was there, he was there at a boys and girls club banquet because it was important to him. the images of me were from mr. carter and mrs. carter and he answered the call by opening his own clinic to ensure that the rural communities had access to health care. if you saw a problem that was political in nature, jimmy carter was going to try to solve it through humanitarian efforts, but he never shied away from the political reality. that power was there to be used to make people's lives better.

and he was essentially committed to doing that no matter what platform or the title. >> one of the things that any democratic politician in -- well, any democratic politician anywhere, any politician, but particularly in the south and 1970s like jimmy carter had to negotiate were conversations around race, very intense and active live debate about desegregation, segregation alike. his record there was really interesting. there were times where he sort of ran on the right on those issues, times he ran on the left. i'm curious how you think about that legacy when you sort of look in context of the complicated journey of a white politician in the south like georgia at that period of time. >> i think you're right to use the term complicated, but i also think about evolution. there are those who not only began in the wrong place, they've lived there, they've built housing there, they have

committed themselves to remaining mired in prejudice and discrimination, justifying their bigotry by claiming that its necessary. jimmy carter looked for ways to be better, and he confronted his mistakes by doing things about it. and so despite the behaviors that may raise some eyebrows, this is the same man who appointed ambassador andy young and told him go and meet every leader you can on the continent of africa because we have ignored this place for too long. he is the person who used his power both in the white house and then afterwards to lift up communities, especially communities of color to provide access to service, and who has made -- who made as part of his central legacy fighting for voting rights, that was something that disproportionally affected black and brown people,

and he showed up, spoke about it, and challenged power. and that evolution i think speaks volumes about the character of the man. >> one of the most fascinating sort of parts of his biography was his 1970 one where he arguably ran to the right of his primary opponent on issues and then when he won, he has his inauguration and says this i think quite surprising for a certain of number people who had voted for the man, he said the time for racial discrimination is over. take a listen. >> i say to you quite frankly that the time for racial discrimination is over. >> muted applause there. it was a thunderclap in georgia politics. how do you think about the through line from carter who obviously wins his home state

when he runs for office. bill clinton i believe wins it in '96 in re-elect. biden wins it in 2020. all the other years it's been republican, but the sort of trajectory of your state and democratic politics there. >> well, actually clinton won in '92. >> oh, he did win in '92. that's right. thank you for the correction. >> absolutely. no, i think that what we saw in jimmy carter, what we saw with bill clinton, what we saw with joe biden and what we almost achieved with kamala harris is, again, the evolution of a state that is becoming more and more recognizable as a bellwether of how our political futures will be shaped by who we give humanity to, who we give opportunity to. and the people who win georgia and serve georgia best are the ones who see all of our state and all of the people.

i'm, of course, deeply disappointed about the outcome in 2024, but what i hope we take from the passing of jimmy carter is the innovation that he brought to politics. when he won the presidency in 1976, he did something no one had ever done. this governor from georgia took himself to iowa and essentially remade democratic politics. we have to remake how we think about our future. we have to do it by understanding the complexity of where we are but by having a vision for what is to come, and i think more than anything what jimmy carter tells us about the politics of the south is that we are constantly learning, we have absolutely every opportunity with each election to pick something new, to be braver than we were the time before. and i'm just honored to have spent time in his orbit and to live in a state that he believed in so deeply, that he never left. >> i want to present you a certain view of the lessons of

both jimmy carter and the recent election of donald trump that i think is a tempting one for certain people to articulate it, and i want to hear what you think about it, which is basically decency is for losers, that if you kind of appeal to people's better angels or you like call on them for things like self-sacrifices as carter famously did in that speech about the sweater, the american people don't like that. what they want is they want to find someone to blame, that demagoguery and sort of those politics are very effective. and, you know, maybe democrats have to find their own version of that, essentially, because what gets people going in politics is like who they're angry at. i'm curious what you think about that. >> i think decency is a choice. it's a difficult choice but one that when vieweda thentically has an effect of boosting confidence and boosting morale.

it cannot be by itself the only offering. and i think what we saw, unfortunately, with president carter when decency confronts ignomany, it has a leg up, but that doesn't mean you abandon decency. i think it means you find other allies, you do more, accumulate more who want what decency can offer. sometimes i think the challenge for democrats is we think if we abandon decency we can get what -- has. if we expand decency, that's how you bring more people in. because we keep misremembering what happened in november. yes, donald trump won the election, but this wasn't a landslide. it was an evenly divided nation. he got more people, but this was not the seismic shift where 57, 58% of america said no. it was less than 50% of the electorate who said this is what we want. our responsibility is for

decency to show. those who stayed home, those who stayed silent, there is a place for decency and a place for them. that's the work that has to be done next, not trying to replicate the bad but trying to amplify and make good an attractive opportunity, an attractive option, and a true choice. >> stacey abrams, thank you so much for taking some time. >> thanks for having me. still ahead how republicans are excusing the massive influence of the richest man in the world with billions upon billions of government contracts. that's next. upon billions of government contracts. that's next.

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amidst the food fight happening in the republican party before donald trump even takes office, there's an open question whether the world's richest man, elon musk, who is constitutionally ineligible from even being president should have such an integral role in the upcoming administration, particularly when his company has received millions and millions of dollars worth of low interest loans and he's currently as we speak getting paid for work from the government. both the defense department relies on elon musk to get most of its satellites in orbit. in 2023 they were promised $3 billion over 100 different contracts last year with 17 different agencies. two of his companies account for at least $15.4 billion in government contracts over the past decade. in fact, this year alone in 2024 musk's company spacex got a contract for just over $3

billion. i think this would be maybe some concern to republicans, but not really. >> as much as people say, well, elon is a billionaire outsider, first, i don't mind they're billionaires. i like people that are successful. i'd rather have someone successtle, and i like it's an outsider and engineer. >> he's not that much of an outsider. in fact, one of the criticisms and the concerns is that he has billions of dollars tied up in government contracts. you don't see a conflict of interest here? >> everyone has a conflict of interest. >> but that's like a pretty big one. >> the guy is worth $450 billion as of today and this month, so i don't think he's doing it for the money. he's doing it for the bigger project and the bigger vision of america. he doesn't need the dollars, he really doesn't. it's not if, oh, i get involved in this i'll get another contract here or there. that's nothing to him.

i like him he's so rich, so removed from the potential influence of it. >> author of monopolized, he recently wrote about elon musk's conflict of interest as it relates to china. senior politics for reporter for rolling stone has been closely covering musk and the infighting in maga world. they both join me now. let me start with you. i guess points for trying the -- what do you think are legit concerns to have about the conflict? >> sure, i mean i think -- i think we can sort of create a principle here that i guess i recall musk' razor, which would be the richest man in the world's motivation would be about remaining the richest man in the world. that's how they become the richest man in the world is that they are obsessed with being so. and so the fact that musk is -- is one of the nation's largest

federal contractors is reel, really important. the fact he's going to be involved in this advisory board, which is going to look to excise certain regulations when he is mired in regulatory scrutiny all over the place is extremely relevant especially if he can target those regulations at his competitors and make sure that he is going to be relatively insulated from that. a perfect example is the ev mandate, the rebate, the $7,500. tesla might not need that as much as other car companies do who are -- they're behind him in america in building out their assembly lines and things, so he can give that up and in so doing concentrate the electric vehicle

market toward tesla itself. >> so you see people do these sort of pundit accountability post when they talk about what they got wrong in 2024. one thing i don't know if i got it wrong, but i didn't anticipate -- six months ago i thought musk's promotion of donald trump or campaigning for him wasn't surprising. it seemed like what his politics were. i did not anticipate this crazy thing where he lives at mar-a-lago now and gets toured around capitol hill, and he does kind of look like a co-president, a mike johnson. when the government is going to shutdown saying i talked to trump and musk. did you -- did you see that coming? >> ah, yes but also no. and to your point about maybe getting that prediction wrong if donald trump were to be elected, that elon musk would essentially

be prime minister musk, there are plenty of reasons why i among others would not fault you for missing that. one of the many reasons is that he is not a particularly well-liked person among the upper, upper etch echelons of maga world. there are plenty of people now willing to pretend they adore him for obvious reasons, and we can get into that more in a moment. but as recently as i don't know just seven or eight months ago, i can figure it out if i actually look at my foets in my calender, but within less than the past year, trump was privately trash talking elon musk as annoying, making all kinds of derogatory comments about him, calling him essentially a loser and a hanger on, and only recently has he opened up this well spring of positive emotion in part because he helped pay to get him elected

president of the united states again. and we -- we had this story up at rolling stone the past few weeks that there were numerous elite republicans who wanted to go on the record with us about how they wanted to be done with elon musk, and they wanted to go on the record to talk about it but only under the condition that vice president kamala harris won the 2024 presidential election, so they could try to kind of get this guy out of their lives. and the problem is kamala harris lost, so they didn't have the opportunity to do that. so if you talk to any number of elected or nonelected elite members of the gop, it will not be hard for you to find people who on a very visceral personal level think this guy is world historically irritating. yes, he has a lot of money, but at the same time that might pose a problem for him later. who knows? >> well, there's also an

interesting international angle here as well, which is there was the reporting about how the fact musk was in direct contact with putin, that happened during the campaign. there's also a china angle, dave, you guys have covered at the american prospect, which at one level you've got all this kind of china hawk fervor building up in the republican party. you know, we're going to finally disinangle from them, we're going to get tough on them. and musk who has embedded in a lot of business relationships there. >> yeah, he has an auto factory in shanghai. he's expressed interest in building another one. and because he's actually sort of struggling in china, byd, and some other auto manufacturers have killing him over there. he's talked about bringing his full self-driving technology, the autonomous vehicle technology to china. that would be sort of a transfer of very sensitive technology. and what we know is that china usually forces foreign companies to transfer that technology to

its own state-supported firms, which then use it to undercut competitors. and so that's exactly what this -- this provision in the year end funding bill, this outbound investment group legislation was steined to kind of prohibit or at least hinder and, you know, elon musk doesn't want any review of his investments in china, and that's just one of i think many points of conflict between him and sort of the maga base. >> so quickly here just in the last 40 seconds, the prediction a lot of people have including myself is there's a collision course and like the town's not big enough for the both of them. what do you think of that? >> i really think it depends on his moves within the next six months or so and how often elon annoys a large percentage of the maga leadership but for now he's

protected, emphasis on for now. >> appreciate it. have a happy new year. >> you, too. still to come the high profile heists have athletes across the country worried. the warning after the latest theft next. worried the warning after the latest theft next

everybody has heard what has happened. i feel like my privacy has been violated in more ways than one, and way more is already out

there than i would want out there and i would care to share, so that's all i got to say about that. >> that was cincinnati bengals quarterback joe burrow earlier this month in the aftermath of the home invasion that occurred while he was leading his team past the caw boys in monday night football. he wasn't the last. tonight there's a new warning for the players and their leagues. nbc news correspondent sam brock has more. >> reporter: a bevy of break-ins targeting sports stars has fanned out to new victims over the weekend with dallas mav vks superstar guard lucca doncic the latest athlete to fall pray. this show boarded upwindoes at the dallas home, and they responded friday to a block lining up with the five time all-star's address. according to an internal police report obtained by the "dallas morning news," thieves snatched some $30,000 worth of jewelry.

it comes only week after some of the names in sports from cincinnati bengals quarterback joe burrow to chiefs players patrick mahomes and travis kelce has seen their homes robbed. >> when somebody posts your house online everybody now has has your address. >> reporter: the morning news reporting the fiancee of dak prescott has thousands of items stolen from her car the day after christmas, though police have not confirmed that to nbc news. the fbi sending a warning cautioning them what appears to be a pattern and regarding significant surveillance. >> celebrities are being targeted because they have money, and you can easily tell from social media if they have things you could easily steal like watches and jewelry and everybody knows when they're away at work. >> nbc news correspondent sam

brock joins me now. sam, describe what's in this new memo from the fbi. >> sure, chris. it's called a iaison information report. basically the fbi saying we understand there's a crime pattern that overlaps and we're going to flag the private or in this case sports leagues as to what's going on. you have highly paid athletes who have been posting things not necessarily in the cases of the individuals we just talked about, but in general it's very out there they have high value electronics and cash and fashionable bags that would be 06 interest to thieves, and also this is a fairly sophisticated organization that is south american organized crime, they believe, that's doing deep level surveillance and reconnaissance and really figuring out what exactly these athletes have, on top 06 the fact they are public figures where their schedules are known, so those athletes can be targeted at times when they're not necessarily home.

patrick mahomes, joe burrow, travis kelce, luka dune doncic. their worlds have been penetrated, what the fbi is giving a head up to athletes is you need to be more discreet in terms of what you're posting, image is out there. access in this day and age is so relevant and relatable it's putting you in some respects in danger so you've got to be caretle what you're doing. >> as this was happening it seemed to me it was possible a sort of social contagion, you know, that one group saw this happen and thought, oh, that's a pretty good idea, we can find this address of this person and we know joe burrow is playing in monday night football. the fbi seems to think this is one group or set of groups pretty sophisticated and doing this for a while. this is not ad hoc. >> definitely not. and i think it's important to draw the distinction, chris, this has been going on for

months. and perhaps there was some sort of copycat effect here to the sense we can reach someone of this profile and be successful, why not try it again? but there was no language in the fbi's memo, if you will, that really delineates there's just one or two groups doing this. more so it's a depth of sophistication and the resources are there to implement it. what that means in terms of where they're coming from or how all this planning comes together, that's nut exactly clear. again, look who's being targed. this is clearly folks who have to have a lot 06 tools in their toolbox to be able to accomplish this sort of thing. appreciate it. >> sam brock with that reporting. sportswriter, host of the sports league podcast. i got to imagine it's got people spooked. also prior to this security is an issue for athletes as far back as i've been following sports and even covering it from time to time. remember big break-ins that

happened to chicago, the chicago bull stars. everyone knows you have a lot of money and people do know your schedule. >> yeah, that's absolutely the case. what this actually reminds me of i don't know if you remember about 15 years ago there was a hollywood bling ring. a bunch of hollywood stars were being targeted. this is ramped up, using drones, able to map out and know exactly where the valuables are stashed in these houses and get in and out. these are high profile athletes been on their team in five, six, in some cases ten years and you have to wonder how they're staking out these players. >> the social media aspect is also interesting because people post and i post, too, everyone posts. but if you have a group that is determined to do this, they can essentially kind of even sort of itemize what their expectation is of what are the valuableimes

down to, well, you wore this watch in this pic on instagram. >> absolutely. and that was actually one of it fbi's recommendations to these athletes don't post valuable things you've bought. easier said than done. >> it also kills the whole point. >> but also don't post -- don't make daily posts about where you are because it lets the criminals know a pattern where you're coming and going. don't post an interior photo of your home. if you have a real estate listing, take out the floor plans online, all of those things probably regular people who have privacy concerns would also keep to heart. >> i was a little surprised it seems to me how easily they seem to pull this off. i know that these folks have security, but it seems that whatever security they had was not sufficient to stymie them. it seems like we haven't had any failed break-ins at this point. >> so not to blame the victim

one of the things that has come out a majority of homes broken into didn't have their security systems activated. the fbi in their warning said activate your systems, tua tagovailoa in an incident completely unrelated to this had his car broken into over a year ago and he's had private security and had it since then. >> there's also the schedule aspect of this, which is everyone knows if you're playing monday night football, and i wonder if we're going to see a change making sure there's a bunch of people in your house on game nights or days or even hiring private security to camp out there. >> first and foremost, the physical aspect of this is not to be overlooked. >> it's scary as hell. >> it's quite a good thing nobody was actually at home for most of these break-ins. that's something the fbi is also worried, if the timing goes haywire and a wife or child is

at home, they've said to the these players do not engage, call police, call security, and those kind of things. >> do you think we're going to see, like, changes in either the public profile of these folks, the sort of activities and habits around, like, the walk in the tunnel in the nba and the nfl, which are sort of opportunities to sort of show-off your bling or whatever as a result of this? >> a lot of those are also paid sponsorship, so i do think there's a way to get rid of those. and quite frankly they're fun. love the tunnel shots, right? but i do think that some players, we've already seen patrick mahomes, he's not really spoken a lot about this except to answer any questions given him. on the other side of bobby port s took to instagram and offered a $40,000 reward and said some of his post prized possessions were taken. >> one of the things that comes from all of this is if you're thinking about stealable items

in terms of just like the raw efficiency of weight to value, jewelry and watches particularly -- >> handbags. >> yeah, those are -- one of the players in dallas who had his home broken into had had $500,000 in watches stolen from his home while he was playing a home game, half a million dollars, probably this much weight taken up in a bag. >> for sure. one of the things i would say about that is physical safety is the number one important thing here. a lot of the stuff is stuff and can be replaced. the heiress world series rings were stolen and when they caught the guys they couldn't recover them because they had amendmented them down. there are some things to these athletes you can't replace and can't rebuy. >> i remember in the kirk cousins the quarterback nfl show where he goes into a room and he's got all his trophies he's ever had including game balls

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